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Nancy Lieder
The majority of the Planet X
in 2003 idea is from Nancy Lieder
and her Zetatalk
web
site. Nancy claims to receives her
information from beings from
Zeta Reticuli.
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Nancy Lieder
Nancy started posting to astronomy
newsgroups in 1995, about
the time comet Hale Bopp was
discovered, claiming that there
was no comet. Hale Bopp, she
claimed, was simply a nova used
as a distraction so people wouldn't
see Planet X. In the spring
of 1997 comet Hale Bopp put
on a spectacular show even moving
across the Orion area, very
near where the mythical Planet X was
supposed to be. Pretty strange
for a distraction to move across the
area it is supposed to be distracting
people from! Now 7 years after
this claim was made we still
don't see Planet X, even without a
distraction.
1995
Newsgroup Posting by Nancy
(note the "Mark our words" passage
highlighted in red)
After her failed prediction that
NASA would say Hale Bopp had
fragmented, Nancy claimed NASA
tracked comets until they found
one they could say was Hale
Bopp. Oddly NASA seems to have
found the comet of the century
to match the predictions, yet the
advanced Zetans didn't see this
spectacular comet coming and
embarrassed themselves by saying
"Mark our words!"
Some of the more dishonest of
the Planet X proponents actually
claim that Hale Bopp was a non-event!
This is a rather sad attempt
at revising history to explain
the failures of Nancy and Zetatalk.
After flooding internet astronomy
groups with this silly talk, a
group of amateur astronomers
went to show Nancy the beautiful
comet that didn't exist.
Nancy still frequently posts
her silly ideas in the astronomy groups
on USENET.
Nancy's ideas are not new. A
comment frequently repeated by
followers of Zetatalk is that
one person could not come up with
all the information on the site.
The reality is that one person did
not. The content of Zetatalk
is comes from many different sources.
A few are listed below.
Ben Goldman, a 1960's and
70's horror movie producer claimed
to be in contact with beings
from Zeta Reticuli. He also speaks of
Planet X and Orion. Possibly
Nancy watched too many bad horror
movies?
The theory of a pole shift is
also an old one. Dr. Immanuel
Velikovsky proposed this in
his book Worlds in Collision in 1950.
He suggested that the earth
recently had an encounter with a
cometary Venus which was hauling
around a tail of rocks, very
similar to the tail of debris
that Zetatalk claims follows their Planet X.
Zecharia Sitchin in his book
the 12th Planet discusses the planet
Nibiru on a long, elliptical
orbit, reaching the inner solar system
every 3600 years and can cause
pole shifts. (Nancy even calls her
planet the 12th and Nibiru)
Sitchin is a linguist and archeologist
who has spent extensive time
studying the ancient Sumerians. He
interprets mythology as fact
and comes to some very wild
conclusions. His theories are
not well accepted by the scientific
community.
Nancy also uses input from members
calling it the Troubled Times
Hub. Many items that are posted
to the Zetatalk Yahoo! groups
such as tt-watch
are incorporated into Zetatalk and Nancy Lieder
takes credit for the items.
The information is not verified and is
often incorrect.
* Note * the group tt-watch has
been under heavy moderation for
most of 2002. If you wish to
find out about bad weather, tt-watch
is the place. Otherwise the
moderators have stopped any topic that
might show how silly Zetatalk
really is.
Grab the ideas from Goldman,
Velikovsky, Sitchin and others, mix
in every weird science idea
(the earth's
twin is a good one) and
conspiracy theory and you have
ZetaTalk.